Welcome, thanks and remarks
Hi Astralninjax, thanks for joining the wiki and being active on it. It's much appreciated as you're adding a lot of content to it. :)
However I have a few remarks to do... (I don't know if you're used to wiki editing in general?)
- I've seen you made many small edits to the Automata Forge page yesterday (July 12th). Do you know about the preview feature? When you're editing a page, you don't need to save the page to see the results of it. You can (and should) click on the "Show preview" button. Actually, everyone should preview their changes before saving a page. (I know some wikis which prevent users from saving without previewing at least once, but this one doesn't). So please preview your changes (particularly when editing templates) and save the page only when you're done with it and you saw in the preview that's what you wanted to do.
- The reason why I'm asking this to you is because wikis keep history of every page change. These changes can be see in Special:RecentChanges (for the whole wiki) or the " " tab (on a per-page basis). Besides unnecessarily using server memory, saving many small edits (instead of a few but relevant edits) floods history and makes it difficult to see what has changed or, later, find stuff in old - but still relevant - version of a page.
- Again for history purposes, strive to write a summary when saving edits (as you used to do before yesterday).
- I saw you re-uploaded some images. Am I wrong or are they downsized versions of the previous ones? If so, this is a very bad practice as this reduces images quality and affects all other pages that may be using these images at a larger scale. If you want to downsize an image, just state the size you want as a parameter of the image tag. See http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Images#Size_and_frame if you don't know about it.
- Regarding Template:ScrollTest, you were right in that Template:Scroll has a problem because it uses external images which aren't always updated. Back in April, I told this was a bad practice because if for any reasons he doesn't update images on his site then nobody else would be able to update images in scroll infoboxes. We were working on a solution for it but then I've been very busy IRL and I've no news from him since then. Meanwhile, creating another template wasn't the best choice either because once the problem is solved, we'll be left with a useless ScrollTest template... As a better option, I edited Template:Scroll to add an "image" parameter which allows us to use wiki images. For consistency with other scroll pages, it should now be used instead of Template:ScrollTest when a scroll image hasn't been updated on ScrollsGuide.
See you later! :)
-- Fomtg 15:44, 13 July 2013 (CEST)
Hi Fomtg. Thanks for the input. Here's my reasoning with everything:
I'm aware of the preview featue. The reason Automata Forge has a bunch of small edits is that I was using it to test the ScrollsTest template.
My thought behind the ScrollsTest template was to give each scroll its own picture parameter, and then once that's done, I was going to change the Scrolls template to be what the ScrollsTest template is. I know we want to have everything consistent, there's just a lot of scrolls to change and that takes a while.
I don't plan on doing tons of changes like that any more, don't worry.
As for the reduced images, it was because the current images on the wiki were really old, and even though they were higher resolution, they were from last year when the resource logos were different.
I really like what you did with the Scrolls template. I'll keep it like that.
Thanks for the help. I've been enjoying keeping up this wiki, and I want to keep helping. Let me know if there's any way i can!
- AstralNinjaX 19:39, 14 July 2013 (UTC)
Hi, I moved your post to this page because it's easier to keep a discussion on the page where it started. :)
Actually the preview feature also works with template calls. So as long as you first save the template you want to test, you can preview it on any other page (e.g. Automata Forge) and thus test different parameter values without saving that page.
As for the Scroll template itself, it was a good idea to provide a parameter for the image name. However it should be optional as in general scroll images will/should have a similar name, <scroll name>.png, so it doesn't need to be specified, it's implied by the scroll name. The parameter is still useful when, for some reason, the scroll image has a different name. Well all that is how the template should work, but at the moment it can't because images are displayed from an external source (supposed to be updated by kbasten). So our plan was to create a bot that would upload these images from ScrollsGuide to the wiki, but the parameter I added will do the job meanwhile...
Sorry for images, I didn't see that it was about resource logo changes (and Growth logo is quite similar to the old one), I was expecting more changes about scroll rules or stats but couldn't see anything different. Do you have full resolution images of these scrolls?
Anyway, keep doing the good job. I'm just helping with how-tos but you already seem to know what is missing on the wiki. :)
Finally, a small tip: you can sign your posts with
~~~~. It will be replaced by your pseudo and the date and time you saved your post. (see below, I'm using it)
-- Fomtg 00:05, 16 July 2013 (CEST)
Awesome! Thanks for the heads up. I don't have any high res photos of the new versions of any of the cards except what they post in the changelog. If there's a way do get them, that'd be super helpful, but i don't have one.
Let me know if there are any things I can do to help with anything.
Astralninjax 00:14, 16 July 2013 (CEST)
Unfortunately, I don't know any easy way to get them either. :(
-- Fomtg 00:30, 16 July 2013 (CEST)